[Helpers] FST links - Lessons 1 & 2

Mystress Angelique Serpent Mystress at fire-serpent.com
Sat May 7 15:42:47 PDT 2005


At 02:47 PM 5/7/2005, you wrote:
> > >- how do you plan to represent these in your link lists? Your own
> > >mirrored location?
> >    Yes. http://fire-serpent.org/library/ ??
>
>Shall we keep keep the original file names as listed (for example,
>http://fire-serpent.org/library/Introduction (Page2).htm), or do some
>editing? What do you want with the currently working pages? Do you have
>any interest in mirroring all (working and time-traveled) sites to your
>/library? Talk to me about the working pages please.

   I think it depends on where they are.
  If they are perched on a free server, then yes, definitely... angelfire, 
yahoo and geocities sites have no stability... same with some university 
servers. The exception would be Kurt Keutzer's FAQs, he is a university 
prof, not a student.

   With domain sites, play it by ear/gut... personally, I rarely let people 
mirror content off my sites... they may feel the same.


> >     Email the webmasters of the rescued pages, I expect most of the
>
>Okay. One of my questions is - do you have any interest in capturing
>who you've reached out to, and what pages have received permission?

   Yes. A listing of some sort, for future reference. My preference is a 
work file like you sent before, but keep adding notations below links as to 
what their status is.

   Yes I would want a "mirrored by permission of author" statement, or some 
such on the mirrored page itself.

>I'm
>thinking it'd either be a top or bottom text line like "Courtesy of
>ABC, 2005" (or whenever permission received), or "Citations desired for
>this material - if found, please write to webhelper at fire-serpent.org".
>The fact is all of these time-traveled sites have web-archive.org
>coding in them that could be cleaned out, and in so doing, a FST
>presence could be put in at the same time.

   I'm not sure I fully understand you, so let me go general, then specific.

First, there is no decision yet, about whether to put an FST frame or 
banner on the library pages and leave them as they are, or whether to make 
a new library template and drop the content into it without preserving the 
original design of the page.

   I prefer the latter, but some webmasters might disagree... preferring 
the mirror to have their style preserved. We will still want to delete 
angelfire spam bits, banners, etc.

   I will want to credit the time machine with a link to where the page was 
found,  and credit the original author or location, with a javascript spam 
protected email link, and a notice that the page is hosted by 
fire-serpent.org.

   I want the library to have a note in the footer about the condition of 
the copyright and ...
  well, something like this, especially for the "iffy" ones:

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