[Helpers] fonts Re: flash navigation menu

Thu May 4 20:13:13 PDT 2006

At 03:07 PM 04/05/2006, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <Mystress at fire-serpent.com>
>To: "FST Helpers list." <Helpers at fire-serpent.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [Helpers] flash navigation menu
>
>
> >>Whould like "Experience" link instead of "Experience Link" and
> >>link to top of the Experience text box?
> >
> >    Yes, Experiences.
>
>Done. Please check.
>
>
> > I like it. I would like for the navmenu and the title to be a little
> > smaller. Lets make the links italic too.
>
>I have alter the sfont size setting
>Navigation menu 20px
>Lesson Title 28px
>
>Please check.
>http://www.fire-serpent.org/fscnew/current/tantra/03matgod.html_text.html

   Perfect! Palantino italic is beautiful. I like it that the links match 
the lesson title, very smooth.

> >
> >   The palantino text came up looking really wierd on druid's
> > linux/firefox
> > computer. The letters were all different sizes like a cartoon script. I
> > think it  is because the font size is px instead of the standard  size
> > 1-2-3 etc.
>
>That I don't know what to do. I have no computer with linux  nor firefox 
>to test it.

   Yeah, it is OK. He sent me a screen capture but it came out very jpeggy 
and hard to read.

>If you set size as below, it will change the font size according to viewers
>browser font size setting.
><font size= 2><font size="+3">
>
>It means font size can besiclly anything. It mean it can mess up the
>layout.
>
>On the other hand if you set the font size in px or point or whatever
>actuall
>measurement then it will alway shows in that measurement. It means the
>viewer can have browser font size setting as "large" 22px font still show
>as
>in 22px.

    Yup, I know. It is an ongoing war between web designers and users. Web 
designers want absolute control even though browser variations make it 
impossible,  and users want to be able to adjust the page for their reading 
comfort.  Resizeable text means elderly and visually handicapped readers 
can adjust the font to something they can see, and that is important for 
the main content of the page.

     I split the difference.

     Layout only matters for titles, footer and the navlinks, they can 
remain px.

    The regular text: essay, transcript, experiences, quotes and links need 
to be resizeable because we already do have visually handicapped members. 
We have one member in England who is legally blind and uses an audio reader 
program!  I think the current layout might be a problem for him, and he 
cannot see the layout anyway!! ... but there will be a printable, text only 
version in future. Not this week!

   In fact, there is legislation coming,  that if approved will require web 
pages to be accessable to the visually handicapped... just like how 
restaurants are required to have one wheelchair accessable toilet, and 
ramps or elevators.  That means resizeable fonts and descriptive alt tags 
on all images. I already have the alt tags.

   Making the essay text, etc. resizeable won't affect the layout because 
the text windows won't become wider, they will just wrap more and become 
longer. The text windows in the main, center column resize with the browser 
window anyway.

   I know you are busy so I will try to be laser, regarding overall changes 
to the design:

    The basic palantino text font for the essay is the new default body 
font.  I'd like it to be a little larger than it is now. I  like members to 
be able to sit back and relax, to read instead of peering with their nose 
in the monitor.

   I think size 3 might be about right, when the browser font is set at 
medium.  The space between lines of text could be smaller, I dunno why 
palantino defaults to that big line spacing... I realize not all browsers 
will accept line spacing css.

   The experiences text font can remain times new roman at about the 
current size, but not px. On some pages where I have quoted something from 
the tea room, my words are italic, that is intentional.

   The homework gets changed to the same font as the essay, (palantino is 
the new body text default) not sure if it should remain bold. Lets leave it 
bold for now, see how it looks.

The transcript font can remain italic, but how does it look in palantino?

  The quotes font can be a little bigger, remain as Times, and blue but not 
px.

   (I don't know why that one quote "the feminist agenda" is so huge, it 
needs to match the others. I know in some places a larger quote is what I 
wanted, but that one looks silly.)

   Instead of having the author credit a different size, it can be the 
quote font except black and italic. That way we can just use the font 
style="quote" at the top of the quotes box to cpver all the content and 
just add font color="#000000"  align center or right, and italic to the 
author names.

   The "Experiences links" box on the right side column is going away. 
Delete it. The experiences links within the box go to the bottom of the 
main experiences text window as an unordered list with the target opening 
in a new window.

   The navlinks on the left side of the footer need to be converted to 
palantino italic to match the links above it in that column.  The next 
lesson, etc. above the footer will remain as gifs.

   I want the "Contact" link by the footer to go to the myst.html 
appointments page instead of pointing to the contact page.

   The Grounding link is Grounding not Groundings, take the S off the end, 
and it goes to the grounding on the preview pages,  not skipping ahead to 
lesson 7. We could even create a separate grounding page, as going to the 
preview confused some people.

   The "Book mark this page" at the top of the footer needs to be a little 
bigger than the other footer content. (+1)

   Now that we no longer have mousovers, the preload array can go bye bye.

   We can also go back to the original navlink colours, with purple on 
click and blue.. where was the blue?

   I want one line of blank space at the top and bottom of each text window 
to give a visual break.

    The essay box has the effect I want at the top but there is no break at 
the bottom. The homework box has the break I want at the top but I want the 
same size break at the bottom. Right now there are two lines of space there.

   I realize some of this can be done all at once with CSS or search and 
replace, and other bits like removing the experiences links box can be done 
as each page is completed.

   Got questions? Thanks for all this. Blessings!! 